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		<title>Random topic: Agnostics are not cowards</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 15:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mary Lupin</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Recently peardg had this idea that I should post little reflection essays on random topics. Since my son, guango, is an amazing random password generator, I thought I could get him to shift his talent sideways and shoot me a weekly random topic. I must warn you that his mind is quirky so some of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recently peardg had this idea that I should post little reflection essays on random topics. Since my son, guango, is an amazing random password generator, I thought I could get him to shift his talent sideways and shoot me a weekly random topic. I must warn you that his mind is quirky so some of the topics are likely to be quirky as well. Here&#8217;s the first:</p>
<blockquote><p>Agnostics are not cowards. Atheists and theists are cowards because they are the people that are too fearful to live without knowing. So great is their fear that they ignore reason and simply fabricate reality to their liking.</p></blockquote>
<p>My little reflection essay: <span id="more-984"></span> I think of myself as an athiest but not as a coward and I know guango&#8217;s mind well enough to know he has strongly logical reasons to present his view about atheism this way. So immediately upon reading the post topic, given my predispositions, my mind went squirreling off to find a way to make both my sense of myself and guango&#8217;s experience both truthful representations of how the world of belief is. Because, of course, agnosticism, atheism and theism are all beliefs. <a href="http://dictionary.reference.com/" target="_blank">Dictionary.com</a> says of belief:</p>
<blockquote><p>1. something believed; an opinion or conviction: a belief that the earth is flat. 2. confidence in the truth or existence of something not immediately susceptible to rigorous proof: a statement unworthy of belief. 3. confidence; faith; trust: a child&#8217;s belief in his parents. 4. a religious tenet or tenets; religious creed or faith: the Christian belief.</p></blockquote>
<p>Despite being one word, &#8220;belief&#8221; is really many things. These various &#8220;things&#8221; can be expressed as vectors. A pair of commensurable vectors form an axis. One vector, for example, carries an increasing reliance on empirical evidence to support belief, and in the other direction, reliance on emotional states and social structures to support belief. The two together form an axis along which the various manifestations of belief &#8211; as they are expressed in human behaviour and discourse &#8211; can be positioned. We could name these vectors in a number of ways, but here I will use the terminology of the dictionary.com definition. (There&#8217;s a graphic representation at the end of this post to make these distinctions visual.)</p>
<p><em>The first pair of vectors:</em></p>
<p>&#8220;Opinion&#8221; here references the evidentiary vector; &#8220;confidence&#8221; references the emotional vector. Hence, having the &#8220;opinion&#8221; that the earth is flat, for example, is really very different than having &#8220;confidence&#8221; in the truth of the statement “the earth is flat.” Opinion implies that this matter of believing the earth is flat is open to evidential support so that if someone comes along that shows us that the earth is in fact round, then the opinion is changed. In other words, having an opinion that the earth is flat is (dis)provable because it rests on a body of evidence.</p>
<p>Having “confidence in the truth” is something altogether different. It rests on emotion, not evidence. If, for whatever reason, it is terribly important to you that the earth be flat, then evidence is not likely to effect your “confidence.” What changes this kind of belief is not evidence but emotional pressure, or emotional opportunity. So for example, if the world is flat, then going to the Americas to garner the wealth of others is not possible. If the world is round, it may be tough to do but it is possible. The desire for wealth weakened the “confidence” provided by the then current theology-science to the point that having confidence in a flat earth became an opinion about the flat earth, which belief then became open to change by a preponderance of evidence. And now, of course, there are very few people who believe that the earth is flat, and certainly it is no longer central to our concept of self.</p>
<p>Another example: I know a young man who was raised in a fundamentalist home. He was always, I suspect, a bit of an outsider. For one thing he has a higher than normal IQ. He has told me stories of his early years and his flight from the community. What he says is that he found out they were lying to him. He had found science in a library and realized that the stories about the age of the earth, etc. were simply not empirically true as had been claimed. But it wasn&#8217;t the evidence <em>per se</em> that booted him out of his family and religious community, it was his outrage at having been lied to. Emotional pressure; and later, an opportunity to develop his sense of autonomy, to pursue the life that he wanted: these things were made possible by his outrage and its consequences.</p>
<p>It has cost him though. The pressure of exile is never easy for any human being. Sometimes those things in which we have “confidence” are such that if we give them up, if we try to shift our emotional needs to another set of beliefs, we simply lose too much. The young man lost his community and faces the deeply saddened looks (probably mixed with anger and contempt although the young man did not say this) of his mother and father, who really do have confidence that their son is going to hell.</p>
<p>The thing is that there is the same thing in some parts of the atheist community. There, if you play with the notions that come with the idea of a transcendent reality, you get the same looks as the young man gets from his parents. Of course not all atheists do this, and not all religious people need to be RIGHT. But the young man comes from a fundamentalist community and the need to be RIGHT is what, in part, makes them fundamentalists. Human beings are prone to this need. I think this is what guango is referring to when he says atheists and theists fabricate reality. I think he is referring to the kind of person who think they KNOW.</p>
<p>So there is an axis along which &#8220;belief&#8221; slides. On one end there is &#8220;evidence&#8221; and I have called that vector &#8220;opinion,&#8221; and at the other end there is &#8220;confidence&#8221; which rests on emotional and social supports. Belief in something can be further analyzed with a second pair of vectors. Context, or to what the “belief” is being pointed is the basis of this second axis.</p>
<p><em>The second pair of vectors:</em></p>
<p>When I say “I do not believe in god” what I am “pointing” at is human history. The human representations – Zeus, Odin, Isis, Bumba, Eshu, Astarte, Demuzi, Dionysus, Kali, Amaterasu, Yahweh, Allah – are what I do not believe in. I am saying that I understand there there is a &#8220;sense&#8221; in which these ideas of divinity exist but I am also saying that the referent to which they point is a human idea or a set of social events and not a (non)corporeal being. And since I understand the person to be inquiring as to my belief in the literal existence of Zeus-Allah, I respond with &#8220;I am an atheist.&#8221; Having said this, could I be wrong about this lack of literal existence? Sure. Is it likely? No.</p>
<p>The thing is that my response to questions about my belief in transcendental or other non-corporeal realities is gauged based on where I think the person “lives” on the graph below. In another context, with someone else, if asked do I believe in god, I would have to say I have no idea. Do I have an opinion about the possibility of some non-corporeal powerful intelligence? Nope. No way to think about such a thing; no evidence for or against. In fact, it&#8217;s not really thinkable for human beings: we inevitably reduce such a potential to some human imaginative creation that is based on our metaphorical representations of existence. This is as we were wired to do, so it isn&#8217;t surprising and in Star Trek that&#8217;s fun, luminous intelligent clouds and such. As part of political or educational decision making, it isn&#8217;t. So really, as in most things human, context is everything.</p>
<p><em>A bit more about the following graph: </em></p>
<p>If I were to draw a cloud over it to show the density of individuals falling along these two axes, I would say (an opinion) that the heaviest representation would be over the inner portion of the lower-right quadrant and the lightest representation would be over the extremes of any of the four quarters. I do think that at the extreme upper right a person here cannot say that they know anything for certain, because all things (well except for Descartes&#8217; &#8220;I exist&#8221;) can be doubted. A person here always references evidence and always points to the inferred referent of any statement. Because the state or even existence of the said referent can always be doubted, there can be no incontrovertible evidence, and therefore, no incontrovertible truth. This is a &#8220;true&#8221; agnostic, in the sense that they are a philosophical agnostic. And this is not a cowardly position. It simply doesn&#8217;t care about the other three quadrants of the graph because the bases on which those others declaim their positions are not logically sound.</p>
<p>The thing is, does this matter? I&#8217;m not really sure about that. People are wavery when it comes to the practice of reasoning, that&#8217;s just how we are. It seems futile to expect consistent rationality when it so clearly does not exist as we have defined it in our philosophy.</p>
<p>Most agnostics fit into quadrants other than the upper-right. Some will be agnostic because it is what is least socially divisive. Some will say &#8220;I don&#8217;t know&#8221; because they are on an inner journey that simply hasn&#8217;t reached any coherence with respect to their sense of self yet. These are more methodological agnostics.</p>
<p>Personally, I think one enviable human attribute is the ability to slide one&#8217;s understanding along each of these axes to mentally embrace (temporarily) the various cognitive positions that these vectors make possible. In this way, even though each person has a &#8220;home&#8221; position, actual communication (as opposed to positional posturing) becomes possible.</p>
<p>This, I think, is deeply courageous, especially for those whose &#8220;home&#8221; is further along the &#8220;confidence&#8221; vector. So to respond to the question of courage and cowardice: It is difficult to live with the fact that philosophically we cannot know, that we are all, at this level, necessary agnostics, but it is easier for some of us than others. How difficult it is for you depends on where on the graph you live. So to me, the most deeply courageous of all are those, whether agnostic, atheist or theist, who habitually cognitively locate themselves in the lower-right of the graph, who then force themselves to slide toward the &#8220;referent&#8221; and to &#8220;opinion.&#8221; That takes far more courage, I would think, than philosophical agnosticism takes for a person on the upper right.</p>
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		<title>Studying magic in North America</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 18:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mary Lupin</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve started reading Arthur Versluis&#8217; book The Esoteric Origins of the American Renaissance. It&#8217;s clear that the author is going to bring to bear many of the magical strains that populate the early American mental landscape – alchemy, gnosticism, theosophy, Hermeticism and Swedenborgianism – on authors such as Emerson, Poe, Alcott, Whitman and Dickinson (can&#8217;t [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve started reading Arthur Versluis&#8217; book <a href="http://www.amazon.ca/Esoteric-Origins-American-Renaissance/dp/0195138872/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1250965330&amp;sr=1-1" target="_blank"><em>The Esoteric Origins of the American Renaissance</em></a>. It&#8217;s clear that the author is going to bring to bear many of the magical strains that populate the early American mental landscape – alchemy, gnosticism, theosophy, Hermeticism and Swedenborgianism – on authors such as Emerson, Poe, Alcott, Whitman and Dickinson (can&#8217;t wait until I get to that chapter!).<br />
<span id="more-521"></span></p>
<p>In the introduction to the book Versluis remarks that until recently the currents of esotericism in American history have not been much researched. What he says is that “there was not much reliable scholarship on Western esotericism.” Delightful.</p>
<p>The subtext, of course, is that there is much unreliable scholarship on the subject. Hence, my difficulty when first contemplating graduate school. I wanted to study the practice of magic amongst white middle class people in North America and my faculty wouldn&#8217;t let me. They were doing it to protect me of course. It was not a respectable topic: it was one that would have ended my academic career before it began. I could study Indians (and did) because I had familial links to Indian Country and because everyone knows that Indian magic is something suitable for academic discourse. Sometimes!: What a silly world I live in: just sayin&#8217;.</p>
<p>Perhaps Verluis&#8217; book marks a change? It was published by Oxford University Press afterall.</p>
<p>What fascinates me about the academic taboo is that it takes place in a world that is heavily into magical thinking. Think about the percentage of Americans that claim for themselves religiosity. Even more telling to me are the number of people deeply afraid of atheism – as if it were some kind of magically infectious understanding – as if being an atheist is the result of some kind of demonic possession that can spread like an air-borne virus. I can&#8217;t help but think that only someone who cannot break the back of magical thinking needs to be so afraid of someone else&#8217;s ability to do so.</p>
<p>So if Verluis&#8217;s book does indicate something about the mental state of academia then perhaps all the work done by “rabid” atheists is really having some effect. Interesting if so. Might explain some of the recent resurgence of the religious right – the traditional flailing of the drowning man. Then again the resurgence could just be another of America&#8217;s “<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Awakening" target="_blank">Great Awakenings</a>.” The only way to tell is time and rigorous study.</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;ll do a PhD afterall?</p>
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		<title>No god</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 09:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mary Lupin</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is no god. That is not a scary thing to say. It is not depressing or demoralizing. In fact it is a wonderful and powerful thing &#8211; enriching, enlivening, delightful &#8211; bearing a history and leading toward a future. When I say “no god” there are worlds of responsibility, history, belonging, duty, delight and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no god. That is not a scary thing to say. It is not depressing or demoralizing. In fact it is a wonderful and powerful thing &#8211; enriching, enlivening, delightful &#8211; bearing a history and leading toward a future.</p>
<p>When I say “no god” there are worlds of responsibility, history, belonging, duty, delight and memory attached.  Most of these worlds come along unbidden and unconscious; some are linguistically learned and some are not. That is how language works.  Its power lies in what it says as well as in what it brings along in the tail of its bright efflorescence.  Words are like comets, burning with meaning and presence but they only do so because of the dark intense space through which they pass. Any utterance is like this. The universe of “no god” is both full of dark corners and cups of light because this world and its creatures are also such.  The universe of language is born from the universe of the world. Each reflects the other. Each changes the other.</p>
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		<title>When an atheist ponders the spirit</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jul 2009 06:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mary Lupin</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have recently been watching a discontinued TV show called Dead Like Me. It posits a world where some people, when they die, become grim reapers whose job it is to take the souls of other people who are themselves imminently dead. The main character, an 18 year old girl, dies in the pilot episode [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have recently been watching a discontinued TV show called <em>Dead Like Me</em>.  It posits a world where some people, when they die, become grim reapers whose job it is to take the souls of other people who are themselves imminently dead.  The main character, an 18 year old girl, dies in the pilot episode – dies by flying toilet seat – and starts her (eternal?) unpaid job as reaper.  The show only went to two seasons. I have watched all of the first and 3 episodes of the last.  It’s delightful.</p>
<p>I tend to like shows like this. Ones that create a world where there are things like paranormal insight, bodiless souls and odd creatures (in the case of <em>Dead Like Me</em> that’s gravelings &#8211;they’re the ones that set up the deadly accidents). When I am really tired, really stressed, I will watch (or read) something like this and feel soothed, reoriented.</p>
<p>I wonder about this, what this says about the power of atavistic notions for, of course, there is no life after death, no soul to take, no gravelings and accidents are just that. But really, of course, the show isn’t about death at all. It’s about living, about being in the world, and there is nothing to heighten the value of life like the closeness of death. Positing a world where death has a positive presence, where it exists as a thing itself, allows all kinds of life-moment mirrors.  For example, the young woman in the TV show finds herself suddenly responsible for herself.  She has been a real pain in the ass with regard to her parents: taken what they offer (home, food, clean sheets) for granted but now, as a reaper, there is no one offering.  She suddenly has no place to live, no dinner waiting, no one to hurt by her sarcasm.  Her death forces her to begin looking at her life.  This is what I mean by a life-moment mirror.  </p>
<p>I think that anthropomorphizing death in the form of human reapers is an easy way to create these “mirrors.”  (Nothing grabs our attention quite like death, except perhaps sex and there are plenty of shows about that as well.) Human social life is something we deeply understand. Giving something completely alien and nonhuman (like meaningless accidents and death) an animal-like existence as well as a human face allows us to think about it, to try to extend ourselves outward into the world a little more from the relatively safe perch of humanity. Doing this is one aspect of learning: emotional learning, becoming more conscious of who and what we are.</p>
<p>I am a creature of the world.  That means at least two things.  First, I am born of a long line of apes and carry the complete history of primate evolutionary history in my genes, my behaviours, my senses, my reactions, my desires, my fears and my consciousness. So when I am at risk (even mildly) I turn naturally to what has always worked for my ancestral line &#8211; I make the world into a place I can understand. Hence the TV. Second, when I feel most myself, when I don&#8217;t feel so discombobulated, I still turn to the world of earth for answers. But at this point, I can try for more exacting insight. For the second that often either means science or poetry.</p>
<p>Like this poem by Melissa Kwasney:</p>
<p><em>Madrone</em></p>
<p>Animal, this nakedness, the bark<br />rolled back<br />as a bear or dog would bare its teeth.</p>
<p>Whose limbs, red and gold as mango,<br />flare like lanterns<br />among the darker, creek-side trees.</p>
<p>Glowing above the charred wrist<br />of root, they light<br />the wild iris in the muddy bottom.</p>
<p>They glow. They grow acrobatic,<br />offering their arms<br />shameless, they coil through the forest.</p>
<p>What is hidden inside us is suddenly<br />exposed to air.<br />The trunks gleam like a wound gleams.</p>
<p>Here is a mirror; a much subtler statement than <em>Dead Like Me</em> but still an anthropomorphizing of the world: a madrone-mirror. What ever it is to be a tree, it is not shameless or its unspoken corollary, shameful.  This is an emotion we experience and find hard to understand consciously since its power is archaic and limbic and thereby not easily dis- and re-membered by our awareness. Looking at the world through narrative builds backdoors into our psyche and allows us to sneak in, peering around with the lantern that is narrative. So I watch paranormal TV shows and read poetry. I do this for my primate, worldly self, the one that is obsessed by what it means to be human, to be me.  If I want to understand madrones themselves, or what death actually is, then for that, I need science.</p>
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